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Our Verizon FiOS customer service nightmare: Why won’t they protect my private customer information?

Verizon FiOS Privacy issues

Seeing as we’ve been experiencing a ton of customer service issues with our service for the past 8 months, we figured it was time to put out a warning to you guys. After all, we typically hear that the FiOS Internet service is remarkably amazing, and people have been dumping cable in droves when FiOS becomes available in their area. Hey, there is good reason to. Where we are at, right outside Seattle, our choices are slow DSL, Comcast at 8.0 down and 768k up, or FiOS with a max speed of 30.0 down and 15.0 up (which is the plan we are on.)

Now let’s be clear here, we love the FiOS service. It works fantastically, it has never gone down in the 8 months we’ve been using it, and it’s, well, fast.

So what is the problem? To put it bluntly, Verizon has shown that they don’t care - at all - about protecting their users private, confidential information. Now, why would we make a statement like that? Check it.




In June, a few weeks after getting our FiOS service set up, I decided I wanted to log in to my Verizon FiOS control panel. This is something I had done quite often while with Comcast. I like to see the account activity and just make sure everything is on the up and up. What was odd though was that when I logged in, it welcomed me by name and displayed my username, but all the rest of the account information was incorrect. It showed that I was on a different speed tier plan than the one I truly was on even - it showed 5/2 instead of 30/5 (my plan at the time.)

I called in to Verizon to let them know, because I wanted to make sure we maintained the highest speeds that we were paying for and weren’t being bumped down due to incorrect information in their system. The person on the other end confirmed our speeds and said there was nothing to look in to, and that it would likely just fix itself on it’s own. Okay, fair enough.

About a month later I went in again to take a look at things under our account page. Nothing had changed. I noticed a webmail link, and figured I’d click it to see if Verizon was sending account notices to that address. Once I clicked through, I realized something was very wrong. The email inbox that I was viewing contained emails that were not addressed to me. A few minutes later I realized that the entire Inbox wasn’t mine. I was viewing the Inbox of a totally different Verizon FiOS user.

I switched back out to the main control panel and went into the billing details, and realized those were not mine either. I had the information of someone who lived in my town. I am talking about their name, their home address, their email address, the last 4 digits of their credit card, and the last four digits of the social security number.

What’s more, my info was nowhere to be found. NONE of it! I was able to see, though, that this other person paid their bill like clockwork, and they were on the 5/2 plan. That is why that appeared in my control panel. It had nothing to do with it fixing itself “on it’s own.”

I hopped on the phone to chat with Verizon about this. After about 20 minutes on hold waiting to speak with someone, I finally got someone on the line and explained the situation to them. They didn’t believe me for some reason (as if I would just call in and make this up?), so I had them log into my account to take a look. Of course, they were alarmed, took down a bunch of information, and said they would make sure the appropriate department got the notes to fix it.

Fast forward two days, and there is no change. I call back and get a different person. They read the notes, confirmed their understanding of everything, and said he would forward the details to the appropriate department. I asked if I could speak with that department, but - lo and behold - they don’t speak with customers. Awesome.

At this point, I had him check something for me. I asked if he would mind logging in to the FiOS system as the user who is showing up in my control panel. He did, and confirmed my fears. When that person logs in to their Verizon control panel, they see all of my information! MY name, MY address, MY card number, etc. I told them I wanted this repaired within 24 hours as it was completely unacceptable to me. If this person wanted to, they had a good start at taking my info and using it for nefarious purposes.

I logged in the next day and found that there were no changes. I waited another day before calling back. I explained the situation the to guy who answered, and you could tell he knew this had to be fixed right away. He said 24 hours max, he would make sure it was fixed. Two days later, nothing.

This process repeated multiple times. I got tired of calling in and being given the run-around. No one could do anything, no one could connect me to the department that handles it (because they don’t take calls), and no one could even tell me if I could get credits on our FiOS account while they got this all sorted out.

After two months (yeah, you read that right) of unresponsiveness, I got bold and just contacted the person whose information I had. I just dropped him an email and asked if he had noticed the problem. I imagined he had not, because whenever I went into his Verizon inbox, his emails were all pretty much unread. I gave him the information that I had about him, and he wasn’t happy about it at all. I called Verizon back and told them that I had done this.

This time, the person said that this was unacceptable. He put me on hold while he talked to that other department - the one that wouldn’t talk to me since I am a customer. He went back and forth between both calls, asking me for more information about what I saw on my screen. When all was said and done, he said it would be fixed within 24 hours.

The next day, I had a message from Verizon saying the issue should be solved and completely fixed. I went and checked, gleefully I might add, expecting to see the change. Instead, everything looked the same, except now instead of the Control Panel showing my username, it showed the other guys username. So it just became more like his profile, and less like mine, and I still had full access to all of this data.

I called again two days ago for an update. This time I spent over 90 minutes on the phone. I started in tech support, was transferred to billing, then transferred to east coast sales, then to west coast sales, then back to the same tech support line I originally started with. This guy spent time looking at every single thing, also logging in as me and looking into all of the details that were different. There were a few instances where he didn’t see what I was seeing in my browser, which makes things even more odd. Anyway, he took all the information down and said it would be fixed as a top priority right away. Unfortunately, it’s been two days, and still nothing.

How could all this happen? Well, apparently, the guy who came out to do our FiOS installation back in May of 2007 was, at best, having an off day - or at worst, is completely and utterly undertrained and had no idea how to set up a freaking account. He mixed up our two accounts, and Verizon has no idea how to fix it, so instead, they just ignore it, hoping I will go away without them actually helping me.

So it’s been 8 months since we have had FiOS installed, and for that entire 8 months, my personal information has been freely available to another FiOS customer who I do not know. He lives in my town, not too far away. That doesn’t leave me with a comfortable feeling. Verizon, the company that should be protecting this data, seems to opt to ignore it instead. Every time I call, save for once, there has been no action on the trouble ticket. That is how “high priority” the issue is to them.

We will keep you guys updated on this. It is fairly alarming that a major corporation like Verizon would be so lax with the private information of their customers, especially when it has been brought up to their customer service department multiple times. We will keep chugging away on this, and hopefully Verizon will come through.





Posted by Andru Edwards on January 25, 2008 at 10:17 AM
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Don’t be funny mate, contact that other guy and sue Verizon over this.

You have a great case + you can get some cash why doing every other Verizon FiOS customer a huge favor! I know I’d support you if I was on FiOS! This is ridiculous…

As Adam Curry would say: Stick it to the man!

Posted by on January 25, 2008 at 10:39 AM | #

I have FiOS also and while I love the product, their customer service leaves a lot to be desired.  Can I recommend calling the corporate office?  You can usually find this information on sites like the Consumerist if Verizon’s won’t provide it, but you need to raise the level.

Also - next time you call, immediately ask for the boss of the person who answers.  An remember to take names and ID #s and write down all the details of the calls - if you aren’t already doing so.

Good luck.

Posted by on January 25, 2008 at 11:53 AM | #

Dude, cancel your account. Wait a few days, then sign up for service again. That’ll get you a new account number. Yeah, you’ll be without service for a while, and that sucks, but the problem will be solved. Perhaps you can use 3G in the meantime?

Posted by on January 25, 2008 at 01:11 PM | #

If you choose to do anything legal about this, then Verizon has one hell of a case against them.  Have you considered filing charges or anything of the sort?

Posted by jml42691 on January 25, 2008 at 02:17 PM | #

@jml42691 - This article is my last resort before moving on to other means of getting this rectified. The hope is that, after seeing this getting some attention, Verizon higher-ups might take action. Of course, we will keep you guys in the loop!

Posted by Andru Edwards on January 25, 2008 at 02:43 PM | #

Instead of wasting more time with Verizon “customer service”, spend time contacting an attorney who doesn’t like Verizon (probably an attorney who works in the Vonage patent department), and sue the crap out of them.

Time = money, and spending your time in the appropriate place will be a good investment of it, for you, your pocketbook, the rest of Verizon’s customers, and Verizon itself.

Posted by on January 25, 2008 at 08:39 PM | #

if you are a fios business customer with static ip address, do a whois on the ip. When I first got fios my full name and address was listed for the world to see. I was able to get them to remove the address and change the name to private customer.

Posted by on January 26, 2008 at 08:41 AM | #

you should take this to Consumerist too.

Posted by on January 26, 2008 at 11:42 AM | #

Sue them!

Posted by OmegaWolf747 on January 26, 2008 at 11:50 AM | #

Hello, Andrew. I made a reply in Digg, but I highly doubt that will reach you. I think I remember you!

Who am I? I’m one of the Verizon reps you spoke to. I wanted to email you in person, but you have no email address to contact you by.

Just to let you know, I was fired from Verizon, so I no longer work for them. I was fired because of their incompetence. I gave most of the story in Digg, so just check out the post from Qchan.

In anycase, when I spoke with you months back, I sent a request to a group called IDSCRUB who are supposed to swap the accounts back over. Looking at your blog here, I see they have not. Not only am I embarrassed for them, but I am also truly sorry that you have to be apart of Verizon’s stupidity.

Verizon, internally, is a mess. Verizon is actually several companies working under one name. Many times, we at the FIOS technical support, had to call other departments and argue with their reps to show that what they did was wrong and they would have to fix them. Some times, these depts don’t do anything.

The guys who you wanted to speak to was a group called IDSCRUB. They do not have a direct number. We couldn’t even talk to them if we wanted to. The only thing we can do is forward the information.

What I suggest you do is call and demand for a supervisor. They’ll try to give you some resistence, but don’t let up. You need a supervisor. The supervisor will have to personally fix the account themselves. If they don’t do anything, then ask to speak to someone higher. Don’t let them tell you they are the highest, because they ARE NOT. You can speak to the corporate office and speak to someone several tiers higher than them. It’s called the Presidental Services line. They can transfer you there so you can talk to one of the head honchos in Verizon. Some people even get a hold of the CEO on that line (seriously!). Threaten to go to court and make it public (its already public raspberry). Not only will they fix it, they’ll compensate you (money). The last thing Verizon wants right now is a law suit. They are known to treat humans like dirt and are being hit from boths sides.

Posted by on January 26, 2008 at 02:16 PM | #

Totally unacceptable.  Do as Steve said.  Cancel your account for a few days and then reapply.  What’s funny is that you might actually be cancelling the other guy’s account and you’ll still be up and running.  It sounds very scary to me that it would take them so long to straighten out the account database.

I think you might need to contact that other guy and the both of you should cancel out and start from scratch.

Best of luck.

Posted by on January 26, 2008 at 08:39 PM | #

I used to work for verizon as well. I can tell you several things.

1. Contact Sue Harr (manager) in billing operations. She is located in the grapevine TX tradecenter location. She can find someone to fix this if she can not do it personally.

2. Contact presidential appeals either via phone or email.

3. If all else fails contact Ivan seidenberg via email.  This will go to presidential appeals as well but he will find out about it. That will roll down hill like a ton of bricks. Something will get done at this point as all the minions will have to scramble to explain themselves.

Verizon ultimately does not care about the customer at all, its all about profit and money to them.  I should know I was working there under contract for 4 yrs because in their eyes it was cheaper to have someone else pay me then them pay me directly.  Go figure.  But follow the above suggestions and something will happen.

Posted by on January 26, 2008 at 11:35 PM | #

Not to be rude or anything but either your an idiot or a good samaritan who does not like to sue. I’ve seen people sue for much smaller things and with a case this big you may becoem a millionaire - if you already aint one that is :D

Posted by on January 27, 2008 at 03:07 PM | #

Id just like to say that within hours of this post I was on the phone with andru and we had the issue resolved. Understandably this went through many months without any type of resolution and much like the previous poster I am embarrassed. Fact of the matter is—this issue is not widespread and had something to do with the way the accounts were activated. -

The issue has since been corrected.

Posted by on January 30, 2008 at 10:20 AM | #

I am not affiliated with Verizon, but I wish to help those who are having customer service issues with Verizon.

  If you are having issues with Verizon, and have not had it resolved after waiting at least two weeks…please contact me. Whether it is a customer service issue or a problem relating to the rebate, please contact me.
  E-mail me your first and last name, last four digits of your phone number, and your state of residence (where you get Verizon service). Please include the word ‘Verizon’ in your subject. E-mail me at VERIZONREBATE@gmail.com

I am NOT affiliated with Verizon in any way, shape, or form. I am simply compiling information and will forward it to proper regulatory agencies.

  Thank you,
  Consumer Advocate

Posted by on February 05, 2008 at 06:45 PM | #

Is anyone else having a problem getting their phone activated?  It’s been one month and seven really annoying phone calls later and still no phone! They even gave us our phone number when we called!  How funny!  We get the same two answers every time we call “It takes a couple of days” or “There is a lack of credit info.”  That makes sense right? Spend nine hours lighting up the house, leave us a pile of expensive equipment, but don’t hook up the phone due to a credit issue.  There is no credit issue.  They have all our information.  They just don’t know what they are doing!

Posted by on February 29, 2008 at 04:06 PM | #

I’ve been having nightmares with Verizon’s Triple Freedom. They connected by phone svc. 12/28/07,  DTV on 12/20, and finally DSL 01/10/2008.  Although ‘m supposed to get ONE integrated bill for approx. $95.00 (before taxes/fees), I’ve been getting separate bills from DTV for incorrect and huge amounts and separate ones from Verizon for their phone service. I’ve been on the phone with them numerous times to no avail. They recognize the problem and say they will fix it but never do. I’ve refused to pay until I receive a consolidated detailed invoice.  Since this has been going on for about 3 months, I told them I wanted to cancel the service and they said (esp. DTV) that I would be charged early termination fees. However, now they’ve cancelled the svc and left me without phone, cable, or internet service. Also, I have yet to receive the voucher or whatever for my free 19inch Aquos HDTV that was promised as part of the package. Is there any kind of class action suit against Verizon?

Posted by on March 08, 2008 at 03:11 PM | #

You can contact consumerist.com, VerizonRebate@gmail.com, The Better Business Bureau, and Consumer Affairs.  I also have some phone numbers for NY and NJ.
We got our phone finally after nine phone calls.  I suspect we will have the same problem with the TV and bills. We will be contacting all of those mentioned above should that happen.  I do believe it is an intentional business act on Verizon’s behalf.  For all the people that give up on the TV and pay whatever bill they get, Verizon saves/ makes money.  They know they “have you” because you can’t go without service and if you terminate you will be charged $200.00. It’s time to stop letting them win!!!!!

Posted by on March 09, 2008 at 07:42 AM | #

hi , great post

Posted by on March 15, 2008 at 03:36 AM | #

Is anyone else having a problem getting their phone activated?  It’s been one month and seven really annoying phone calls later and still no phone! They even gave us our phone number when we called!  How funny!  We get the same two answers every time we call “It takes a couple of days” or “There is a lack of credit info.” That makes sense right? Spend nine hours lighting up the house, leave us a pile of expensive equipment, but don’t hook up the phone due to a credit issue.  There is no credit issue.  They have all our information.  They just don’t know what they are doing!

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Posted by on March 19, 2008 at 11:48 AM | #

Okay, first and foremost I 100% agree that names need to be taken down, but moreover, for cheap money you can purchase a telephone recorder, I highly recommend this. Depending on the laws in your state you may or may not need to notify the person on the other end that they are being recorded, but you will need to research that prior. Once done, record every single conversation you have with anyone associated with Verizon from that point forward. This is a must!

Furthermore, I highly recommend you contact an attorney. If for no other purpose than to have a letter sent to Verizon Corporate on legal letterhead etc. Then watch how quickly this gets taken care of.

The best of luck to you!

Posted by on March 24, 2008 at 10:28 AM | #

Why use verizon phone at all?  I had phone,video and internet and now I have since turned my phone off with verizon and switched to magicjack.com.  $40 bucks for a yr can’t beat that considering VZ is 5-80 a month for phone with taxes

Posted by Raine on May 05, 2008 at 10:17 AM | #

yepz, agreed, sue them.

Posted by Raine on May 22, 2008 at 11:19 AM | #

Since several people have mentioned a lawsuit, I have to wonder two things (off the top of my head):

1) If you’re going to sue, what exactly would the damages be?

2) Why not just cancel the service?

Still, the story here is pretty outrageous, and for all I know, you could potentially have a case against Verizon.  If you want to get a lawyer’s opinion, you can ask <A HREF=“http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers”>legal questions</A> for free over at Avvo.com.

I wonder if this was a freak incident caused by a rouge technician or if it’s a wide-spread breach of privacy.  I think the legal implications would be larger if it’s the latter.

Posted by Raine on May 22, 2008 at 03:43 PM | #

Though these service providers have lot of redressal and complaints review mechanisms.. it falls short as the SLA targets and commitments is considered70-80%+ to be better customer service !!

Posted by Raine on May 24, 2008 at 07:43 AM | #

Hi:
Don’t know if this issue was ever resolved for you, but I can advise you of some type of recourse that seems to be working for me.
I did not have the exact same problem as you. I believe Verizon has shared my info to other “trusted” partners and that is resulting in additional third party charges on my bills.
Additionally, every bill since I’ve had Fios has been wrong. At 6 months I was still waiting for the free offer when subscribing to the “Triple Freedom”
I understand the frustrations when calling Verizon. This is so wrong.
At present I am still resolving these issues.
I finally do have direct contact w/ith someone at Verizon.

Posted by on June 04, 2008 at 08:15 AM | #

I am so gald I found this post.  After numerous hours on th ephone with Verizon Fios customer service to help fix a small internet problem, I decide to go back to my old cable company simply because their customer service did not leave me hanging for hours/days.
This is when my nightmare began.  I have been trying to get one final bill particularly the one that shows the disconnection charges.  My new cable company is willing to pay the fees if I get a copy of the invoice.  Its been since April 23rd and I can not get a copy of this bill.  I simply receive a late notice.  I never received a detiled listing of final charges. I refuse to pay until I get this invoice.  I can’t tell you how many incompetent people I spoke to across Verizon with many false promises along the way.  I feel sorry for your breach of identity which is certainly a more serious problem, but I am telling everyone I know and I am trying to start a blog the nightmare you will enter into if you deal with Verizon.

Posted by on June 07, 2008 at 03:05 AM | #

You’re right in this situation

Posted by on June 17, 2008 at 11:43 AM | #

ok, i stumbled upon this blog while googling fios customer service. heres my drama story, just happened about 25 minutes ago. we have fios internet and tv, no phone service.we called to change our automatic payment to the 15th instead of the 2nd (or 29th or 3rd, basically whenever they felt like it) and were told no problem, both payments will be taken out on the 15th. so guess what? my bank account is overdrawn 300.00 right now because its the 3rd, and they took both bills out. my husband called and they said they cant help us, the person who told us the change qwould occur is “missinformed” and the only way to change the billing date is to get their phone service also, then they will be happy to help us change the date! so i am out a lot of money, and cannot get to anyone other than the help desk! any contact ifo would be greatly appreciated. by the way, we love both of our services, and wouldnt dream of going back to cable or dsl!

Posted by on July 03, 2008 at 04:29 PM | #

we need to move
the idiots of the world BACK to jobs they can handle, like the fry
line at McDonald’s!

We consumers ALL TOO OFTEN accept crappy service AS IF IT’S THE NORM!
Guess what? It’s NOT, and to quote a famous movie: “We’re mad as
hell, and WE’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!”

We consumers DEMAND that companies PROPERLY STAFF their Customer
Service Departments, and PAY them ENOUGH, so they DON’T have to staff
them with people whose intelligence is less than that of a CHIMP!

You want my money? GIVE ME THE SERVICE I PAY FOR!

Posted by on July 16, 2008 at 06:30 AM | #

Verizon always a very bad customer care and more people are experiencing different kind of problems facing with it.
http://www.shredexonline.com/

Posted by on July 20, 2008 at 08:43 AM | #

I’ve had similar experiences with Fios customer service. The guy who installed my service had to be high—literally. He sort of shuffled around, slurring his words, rambling about the women he was seeing, taking personal phone call, etc. It took the ###### 5 hours to install the box.

And now every time I call customer service it’s a 45 minute wait to talk to somebody who inevitably transfers me to someone else who, in turn, transfers me to someone else. I’ve never talked to less than three people and never had a call last less than an hour. And this is for something as simpling as changing the credit card on my account.

But yeah, I’ve never had a service interruption.

Posted by on July 25, 2008 at 01:56 PM | #

hi~
i’ve been having problems with verizon as well.. and i just stumbled onto this post.. and wanted to write a few lines too >.< to vent my frustration out!

i ordered fios internet and analogue tv service in JANUARY of this year.. and the installation, for some odd reason, was scheduled in MARCH. on the installation day, tech person didn’t show up, so i called verizon, and they said it was cancelled from verizon’s side.. w/o my consent. anywho, the following week, it was installed. and immediately, i called verizon to cancel my tv, because my previous carrier had more channels for the same service. the cancellation department rep offered me “99.99 triple freedom plan, but we’ll also give you 10.00 off for 2years contract(so 89.99), plus 100.00 amex gift card”. so i took the offer.

April bill comes, and i get charged 200+ dollar. so i called, and the rep said “i see it in the notes, it just hasn’t registered in the system, so just pay the amount, and we’ll credit your account when it goes through”. ok. so i paid.

May bill comes, i get charged 200+ dollars again. same response every time until July. At this point, i don’t even care about the “free installation” and the amex gift card. i just want to pay what i need to and never call back ever.

the rep i spoke to in July told me that they had never offered 99.99, that the cheapest they can offer was 104.99.. “and what you’ve overpaid will be reimbursed, which is about 63dollars.. and give you 10.00 off for 1 year contract”. ok fine. “so, i’m just making sure, my next bill will be “94.99 plus set top box and tax? i don’t ever have to call back again?” and she said “no you don’t have to call again*laugh*”.

i get the bill in August. it’s still 200+ dollars. so i call.. again.. i explained briefly to the rep, and she said to me, “k, you’re not understanding, can you hold on a minute?” without explaining anything to me. when she got back to me, she said she had talked to the supervisor and that i wasn’t suppose to get 10.00 off anyways. so i asked to talk to the supervisor. i told the supervisor what had happened since January, and she said the note the rep in July wrote is different than what i was talking about. o.m.g. she said she’d call me back after she gets in touch with that rep, didn’t want to put me on hold for too long or something. haven’t heard back yet.

k i feel a little better now. thank you.

Posted by on August 04, 2008 at 05:41 PM | #

Hello Andru, I have a bandaid solution for you and the other guy. You both will have to have a trust between you and you will both have the account you each should have had from the beginning. To resolve take over each other’s account, which really is taking control of your own account.  Log onto the account that is currently his, he logs onto the account that is currently yours. Yes you both share passwords. To own the account you originally should of had, change the password. He does the same. Now you both have your proper accounts, with password private.

It does not look like you will receive help from Verizon. If you are OK with the service, then keep it. Unfortunately you can’t get it this service anywhere else. I do not mean their customer service! I mean High Def TV signal- and the fastest Internet around.

Hopefully Verizon will get it together. They are undertaking an enormous and ambitious project with installing Fios all over the nation. These people take on an amazing amount of customers every day. and probably growing with new folks themselves by leaps and bounds. I am not giving them an excuse! Just trying to put it in persppective. I can not see cutting my nose to spite my face. I would not want to give up fast internet speeds…if I did not have to.

Their phone customer service, both Verizon Wireless and their hardwired company, Verizon,  is one of the best here in South Florida. With time, hopefully these folks will pull it together and their customer service will win out.

Posted by on August 16, 2008 at 09:13 AM | #

Verizon Long Distance is cheaters liar’s thieves. They promise you that if you buy their long distance plan they will re rate the long distance calls you made the day earlier. This is what happened to me. calls were made to Jerusalem, Tel Aviv by a guest of my home, so I got a call from Verizon rep telling me that if I buy their long distance plan, I will get all call re rated to that plan which will cost 10 cents a minute for each call already done. She then connected me to the customer service department who put me on the plan and charged me for the long distance plan which I saw on my bill…

When I got the bill for the long distance calls and I saw that the price was still the high 5.00 a minute, I called Verizon who denied it. Even thought they saw in the notes of July 22nd the whole episode of the calls, and the promise they gave me, and the information they gave me they still are denying it. They are liars, and cheaters,

Posted by on September 08, 2008 at 09:49 AM | #

Okay… I’ve had a similar experience with Verizon and I hate to admit it, but I’m almost gleeful that I’m not the only one with issues like this! Back in May Verizon was supposed to come out and install FiOs, when the technician arrived, he informed us that he could not install the equipment because the contractor did not make our apartment “FiOs ready.” We had to have the original contractor come out and fix the problem. When I called Verizon, they informed me that my order had been closed, meaning I had to go through the whole order with the guy on the phone, which caused me to miss out on their free sports package because I was past the promotional period, even though when I initially signed up to get everything, it was included. There were some other free movie packages and such, so I ended up taking that instead. Well two months later (because they are SO busy) we finally had a technician come out to install everything. The first two weeks were wonderful! Then the third week the internet completely stopped working (of course this was the week I had three online finals I had to take for school). Everytime we contacted Verizon they informed us that the internet would be up and running. Finally, after three consecutive days of calling customer service, someone finally decided to have another technician come out to see what the problem was. Of course, they never showed up when they said they were going to go and we ended up not getting the internet fixed until the following week, which forced me to take an additional vacation day from work. Turns out the problem was faulty equipment that just stopped working. So of course we contacted Verizon multiple times to see what they could do for us in crediting our account for the horrible experience AND the lack of service. I’ll tell you right now, don’t ever attempt to get money back from this company. They refuse to do it and you talk to different people everytime you call their customer service and no one is willing to help you. Needless to say, we opened a case with the Better Business Bureau, not like that seems to be helping at all either.

Posted by on October 10, 2008 at 12:53 PM | #

Guess I’m not the only one to have a hell like experience w Verizon, and I’m not even a customer yet, and likely will not be now.  My story’s up on http://www.dopple.net (which seems like a spam message to get traffic but isn’t, I’m just ticked off enough I put up a webpage about Verizon’s horrid service.)

Posted by on October 10, 2008 at 01:18 PM | #

i’ve been having problems with verizon as well.. and i just stumbled onto this post.. and wanted to write a few lines too >.< to vent my frustration out!

Posted by on October 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM | #

Have any of you considered emailing all the posts on this site to the Verizon Presidential email. I believe some above mentioned it and some other people to contact. Luckily I read these posts before I signed up for any of the Verizon services. So THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!!!! You have prevented Verizon from gaining another customer they can control. I am sure that I am not the only business they will lose after more and more people see this site info.

MORE HELPFUL INFO
I am not sure if this is mandated for all of the Verizon services, but in the cellular world, a customer can cancel their service within 15 days without being charged a breakage fee. You do have to return the equipment, unless you previously owned it, or paid the full retail price (not contract) for the phone. You might also be required to pay a pro rated amount for the 15 days of service, but all this I better than being stuck with bad service.  Your service contract should have this info. If not, ask customer service or your sales rep.

Also, if you have had that many problems with your service, they can and will wave the breakage fee. They should have a Retention Department or some department that works with customer that want to cancel. This is their one last chance to keep you as a customer. That is who you will need to talk to, NOT customer service.

Always reed your contract before you sign, so you are well informed of all aspects of your new service.

Thanks again
MustangSally

Posted by on October 23, 2008 at 03:34 PM | #

It was only one month that we switch to verizon from cable, but I have enough already with this ignorant computerized robot women in customer service, just can’t get to no body to talk to! We had an e-mail, outgoing issues, with Sub Account problems. And we still can’t get any body to help us to resolve it just because it is impossible to spent all day on the line waiting till some one will answer to you from another side of globe with a terrible English accent that I can’t even understand, what the hex are they talking about it??? Forget it, I am switching back to cable, period.

Posted by on October 27, 2008 at 07:24 AM | #

I’ve had a nightmare of my own dealing with Verizon’s customer service.

I wrote about it on my blog:
http://soreco.blogspot.com/2008/11/verizons-horrendous-customer-service.html

Posted by on November 07, 2008 at 07:35 AM | #

I’m in NYC and taxe on triple-play is $25 !!!
It was around $6 on CV for same triple-play.

Why did I switch to FIOS ?

Posted by on November 07, 2008 at 09:17 PM | #

KRISTEN (8-4-08)

I’M HAVING THE SAME PROBLEMS….HATE TO GIVE IN AND JUST PAY ADDITIONAL $ FOR PENALTY….WHEN I’VE DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO CORRECT THESE MISREPRESENTATIVES…..MY KIDS CAN’T CALL ME FROM HOME TO MY CELL PHONE AND WE HAVE THE SAME EXCHANGE…“LONG DISTANCE BLOCKED”

I HAVE BEEN TRYING SINCE AUGUST TO CORRECT VERIZON’S MISTAKES (TO NO AVAIL) NOW IT NOVEMEBER…2 YR CONTRACT @ $142.31 AND I KEEP GETTING BILLS FOR $100’S OF DOLLARS…SORRY VERIZON BUT UNTIL YOU CALL ME BACK, E-MAIL ME OR CORRECT THESE BILLS I WILL JUST KEEP PAYING THE CONTRACTED AMOUNT $142.31.  AS FOR YOUR PAST DUE AMOUNTS THAT KEEP ADDING UP, I HOPE YOU HAVE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND NOT WITH AIG…
I HAVE DOCUMENTED EVERY TELEPOHONE CALL, E-MAIL, LETTER AND FAXES AND WILL CONTINUR EVERY MONTH UNTIL YOU CORRECT THE ERROR’S OF YOUR WAYS…MY CREDIT LINE IS EXCELLENT AND IF NEED BE I’LL SEE YOU IN SMALL CLAIMS COURT (YOU HAVE ONLY A FEW $1000.00 LEFT) BEFORE I NEED TO FILE MY PAPERWORK. IF I CAN HANDLE THIS EVERY MONTH, A JOB, 2 HOUSES, KIDS AND A HUSBAND, VOL FOR HOSPICE, AND MY COMMUNITY THEN MAKING SURE VERIZON PAYS THEIR OWN BILLS WILL BE NEXT “GOAL” IN LIFE!

CAN WE DO A LEGAL CLASS ACTION AGAINST VERIZON?  ANY ATTORNEY’S OUT THERE?  ANY ONE WITH ANY OTHER ADVISE ON HOW TO FIX—STOP VERIZON?

Posted by on November 09, 2008 at 04:13 AM | #

Well my story goes as follows :

Rep came to my door. I’d just learned that FIOS was ready for my neighborhood, but was waiting to jump on since I’d been running a home business and changing services took a lot of work….

Rep promised me a 200.00 rebate if I signed up that day. It was for the Friends and Family promotion and I would be treated as though I’d referred two friends. He also promised me a completely free installation.

Wrote out a contract which I signed. Wrote 200.00 referral on the contract.

Tech came and installed TV and Internet.

1 1/2 months later I get my first bill. 680.00. I was charged for every part of the installation. I was also charged for 2 routers. No 200.00 referral credit.

So I call and here begins the same song and dance everyone else seems to be experiencing.

I was instantly credited for 1 of the routers. I was told I was being credited for everything.
I was told to pay for only the portion of what I actually owed.

The next month I get my bill. 540.00. There is a 7.00 late fee. The credit for the 1 router shows. No other credits show. No 200.00 referral credit.

I call again. I am credited a portion of the install fee and told that my router credit is pending. Again I am told to only pay the portion of what I owe.

3rd month. Late Fee. No Referral Credit. No credit for router. Call about the router. Told again it is pending and will be put through the following month.  Told to call my local management team about the referral credit.

My area manger calls me. I explain the situation about the referral credit. He tells me he will call his supervisor. I am asked to fax my original invoice with the 200.00 credit mark.
1 week later I receive a voice mail telling me that I will be getting that 200.00 credit.

4th Month. No Referral Credit. Late Fee. No router credit. Talk to the supervisor. Tells me there is nothing he can do and that we have to wait for a response from another supervisor. Again I pay only what I owe. I ask what about the phone call telling me that I would receive my credit. Apologizes and said he didn’t know either.

5th Month. Rinse and Repeat. Different story about waiting for a different team.

6th Month. Rinse and Repeat.

7th Month. Here I am now. I call once a week to check on things. I talk to the same person. He tells me they are working on it. Everything is pending.  343.00 is owed to me, or still being charged on my account.

With so many people having so many problems with billing through Verizon, why hasn’t a Class Action Lawsuit started. It may be different stories or circumstances, but they all appear to be the same problem. Same song and dance with no resolutions. ?

Posted by on November 14, 2008 at 08:47 PM | #

We also have FIOS, we had it installed on 10/12/2008 and have had nothing but problems with the service.  This includes the service and billing both.  And as I am typing I am waiting on hold with them right now for another billing issue.  Where to start….First we had the service installed, the installation is sloppy we now have a jack with a plate and the hole cut for the wire to come through the wall and out of the plate is larger than the plate, think of an electrical outlet size plate and all that is coming out of it is a cat5 size cable, how you make a hole bigger than the plate for such a small cable is beyond me…oh and we live in an apartment complex it will be interesting to see if we get charged when we decide to leave, FIOS ensures us that they have clearance from the property manager they are allowed to install the fixtures needed for the service.  Then we have had a constant issue with the TV service, specifically the box freezing up and displaying on the TV “Currently Unavailable” this happened probably about a dozen times and the only solution Verizon could offer was to send a new box, we have a multiroom HD DVR Morotola Brand, the day after receiving the box the same issue happened and in researching the issue online I learned many people were having this issue.  The only solution to correct the problem is to disconnect all connections to the TV, Incoming TV Signal to the box, and the power then let the unit sit powered down for 5 minutes and power back on and sometimes this is long enough and sometimes I had to let it sit upwards of a half hour to correct the issue.  Through process of elimination I was able to make a guess that the most likely cause of the problem is that if you disconnect any of the cables, in my case the HDMI from the TV to switch between my PS3 and Cable box, the box freezes up for whatever reason, now I just take extra care to ensure my box is powered down before disconnecting any cables..a solution but annoying none the less, especially that Verizon is not able to provide this answer to people that call with a similar issue.  Now the real frustrating part is the billing, to start all I can say is be sure to not waste your time with first level billing support, ask for a supervisor immediately.  The first issue we had is that we received a promotional letter stating we could get FIOS TV, Internet (10/2) and phone for $69.99 a month for 3 months with Free multiroom DVR for 12 months, Free HBO & Cinemax for 30 days including the on demand. We currently had Comcast and the internet was horrible and they could not fix the problem because we live in an apartment complex and had no techs available for a over a week, well I was working remotely and lost my internet connection 12 times in 6 hours and Comcast confirmed it was an “unknown issue” on their end. I had enough at that point and heard all this great stuff about Verizon and I knew Verizon was a dedicated internet signal which was enough for me to make the jump.  So then comes the first bill..I don’t remember the exact amount but it was in the $140 range so my girlfriend called and was told that a $69.99 promotion didn’t exist, well she argued back and forth for about an hour and finally just hung up.  CONTINUED ON ANOTHER POST…

Posted by Sid on January 23, 2009 at 08:00 AM | #

-CONTINUED FROM ABOVE-
I called a few days later and I luckily took notes at the time of order on that exact letter so I was able to read it to them verbatim at which time they finally agreed it existed.  I was then told that it takes 2-3 billing cycles for the discount to be applied and that the woman seen the discount was on our next bill so we should just pay the full amount and the next three bills would be discounted, well I refused and said that you offer it at a certain price and that is the price I will pay, after some haggling and talking to her supervisor they said that I could subtract the discounted amount and pay the difference and the remaining balance would show as disputed in their system and not be turned over for collections or anything of that nature. Also while on the phone the woman offered to upgrade our package at no cost because they now have a package called “extreme HD” and I declined saying that once our 3 month period is up I would reconsider then.  She then said that they also are providing an additional month of free movie channel trials, which I initially declined stating that I don’t want anything that I have to call and cancel because we don’t really have the time to sit and watch movies, she said there is no need to call and cancel that it is a trial and if we liked the channels we would call back in and request to keep the package so I agreed.  Fine..issue resolved right? WRONG! Next bill came, this time the charges are over $190!!! So again I call, this time I asked for a supervisor, now I was on hold for 20 minutes to get to a regular agent at which time I asked for a supervisor (this is only because I was talking to a friend a few days before and heard his billing issues went on for over 5 months and I need to talk to 2nd level support)  so I waiting on hold for a total of 1 hour and 45 minutes to get to a supervisor (Jared Nicholson)  now this guy was EXTREMELY helpful and he explained that they are having major billing issues and to resolve the issue he would give us the Extreme HD package for the same price as our current package and discount it an additional $10 for three months and extend our initial 3 months at $69.99 to 6 months and upgrade our internet to 20/5….but we would have to pay the $190 to bring the account current and the discounts would be applied for the next 3 months for the $10 and the $69.99 for 6 months…great (I still have yet to see the bill for this new discount) and he mentioned that the bill that was to be mailed didn’t reflect the initial discount the other woman told me she could see on the bill.  OK so we are now on bill number three (the $190 bill) no discount, so my girlfriend logs in the day after I speak with Mr. Nicholson and notices that we are being charged for this non-recurring movie package…which is why I called today and again the initial operator refused to remove the billing only that she would cancel the package, at which time I had to ask for a supervisor again…well I didn’t get one I only got her on the phone again with approval to remove the charges….the main reason I wanted to write this is so that everyone is aware of what to expect and to TAKE NOTES..NAMES, TIMES AND DATES of who and when you talked to them.  Specifics of the details of the conversation and keep ALL correspondence in reference to promotions and offers and finally be prepared to be on the phone for AT LEAST AN HOUR each time you call.  Ooooh and one final note, if you want the TV service in more than one room it is an additional monthly fee, you can’t even connect for just basic channels. And finally one more note, my girlfriend is the network Admin for a multibillion dollar company at their corporate office and had FIOS installed in the conference rooms of several company locations and has been battling for WEEKS no joke WEEKS just to get a copy of an invoice to approve payment on the bills and to date has not been able to get one, last time she was on with them she was transferred 6 times, in a circle ending with the initial person she talked to, which was well over an hour of time that she can’t spare from her day.  - I would like to ask that people please pass this information on and repost it on whatever website or reference a link to this post.  People need to start speaking out loudly about LOUSY customer service…we spend our hard earned dollars for services and get treated lousy. - Feel free to contact me kwaku1331@gmail - Kwaku1331 at gmail.com if you need more information for your site or whatever, I really really want to get the word out.

Posted by Sid on January 23, 2009 at 08:01 AM | #

i do not like verizon at all. I use alltel and they are awesome. I have never had a problem with alltel. customer support at most places are bad.

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Posted by jim on February 06, 2009 at 04:32 PM | #

On June 5, 2008, Verizon Wireless announced it would acquire Alltel Wireless in a deal valued at $28.1 billion. The merger was approved by the FCC on November 4, 2008, and completed on January 9, 2009. With this merger, Verizon Wireless now has approximately 83.7 million wireless subscribers and covers nearly the entire United States population[4] making it the largest network in the country by area covered and number of subscribers. However, 2.1 million of these customers will soon be divested, per the conditions of FCC and DOJ approval of the merger. The Alltel name will eventually be retired after 65 years of business. Customers should begin seeing Verizon Wireless on their statements and other material formerly carrying the name as early as March 2009.

Welcome Aboard!

Posted by john on February 25, 2009 at 10:34 PM | #

are you kidding me sue is that how all you handle this thats a brilliant idea sue and then when he gets his money the person who has his info can just sell it and have someone take his money brilliant plan there retard

Posted by john on March 10, 2009 at 02:15 PM | #

I have heard stories like yours several times a week for the last few years about Fios… that is why im sticking with my comcast… great customer service and a great product…  yes they did fall behind at first in internet speed but now they offer up to 50 over 10 speeds with there lowest speed tier of 12 over 2! verizon goes down to 5megs… rest assured and stick with the comcast… its a competitive based market out there and both companies are both frantically doing there best to give there customers the best product out there so the internet speeds between the two mocho companies will never fall to far from one another… The difference? CUSTOMER SERVICE! that is why comcast is blowing verizon out of the water! That is why verizon is facing layoffs right now in our area and comcast is hiring… read the reviews people!

Posted by Scott Martin on March 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM | #

The best advise that I can give is to stay as far away from verizon as possible. I recently had the triple play installed and have had nothing but trouble ever since. Bad installation. cable not working, internet issues, and when I received the bill it was screwed up. After spending countless days on the phone, hours on hold, I though that everything was resolved. Well guess what, today they shut off my phone, when I called in I was advised that there record did not indicate I had any phone service. So far today I have spent over 7 hours on the phone with them, and still no service. I’m calling cablevision and telling Verizon what they can do with their service. STAY AWAY FROM VERIZON, THERE SERVICE IS HORRIBLE.

Posted by Txbadboy on March 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM | #

Has this been fixed?  Do you have an update?  If it hasn’t been fixed, I suggest you file a complaint with your State Atty General.

Posted by Cathy on March 31, 2009 at 02:15 PM | #

Gartman put something out apparently but I have not seen it. Certainly the played a role in the blowoff peak, but I certainly don’t <a href=“http://used-pit.x.xrum.name/map.html”>used pit</a> have a problem taking advantage of weak hands and running their stops so to speak.

Posted by Allada on April 08, 2009 at 07:01 AM | #

Verizon Fios sucks so much that I had to cancel their service within 14 days. I was shocked to find how rude the customer service is compared to verizion wireless. Their website is completely a mess and the IVR is a hell.

For all those FIOS crazy people, stick with what you have. BTW… their customer service is 9-6pm M-F only and they always to be sleeping during that time.

Posted by afs on April 13, 2009 at 05:58 AM | #

I keep getting notifications of comments in response to a comment I made to this story about Verizon FIOS.  But, I can’t find the comments.  Can someone help?  Is there a link?  the link in the email brings me here, but not to the comments even though it says it’s taking me there.  I click where it says there are 54 comments, but it brings me back here and not to the comments.  I could see the comments when I originally posted, but not now.  This is an extremely confusing site.

Posted by cathy on April 14, 2009 at 07:56 PM | #

The only way to get their attention is to cancel the service.  When I switched from Cablevision to FiOS and called CV to cancel my service, the guy on the phone put me through the ringer asking why I was canceling and trying to convince me to keep the service before accepting my cancellation.  Since then I’ve gotten a sales call and 2 personal visits from a salesman trying to get me to switch back to CV.  On your next call you should state that if they don’t fix the problem by the end of the week, you’re going to cancel the service.  That probably won’t accomplish anything because the tech support drones you talk to couldn’t care less, but at least you’ll be on record.  Then when the problem still isn’t fixed after the stated deadline, call and cancel the service.  When they ask why, tell them about the problem.  If that doesn’t get you through to the right person, nothing will.  If that doesn’t work, I’m afraid you have no choice but to cancel the service.

Posted by perl on June 03, 2009 at 10:17 PM | #

You sir, are an Idiot.  It’s called a lawyer and cancellation notice with refusal to pay the bills.  So long as you paid the bill, why would they help you.  I would have also called comcast and made sure they knew and toss around the idea of a buy back offer.

Yeah, you loose the fastest speeds, but you still have speed.

8 months! You are a moron.

Posted by RodBox on June 09, 2009 at 11:29 AM | #

Well I will have to tell my family they are with verizon, not me though, I have a prepaid I dont get many calls. I say once this info gets around either people will be switching and verizon will lose out or verizon will have to be making some changes!

Posted by forum on July 12, 2009 at 09:37 AM | #

hat’s horrible. how can they let you information out like that. i am with sprint myself and not have had that problem

Posted by Serdar on July 18, 2009 at 05:46 PM | #

Let’s face it, they can get away with abusing us because there is no meaningful competition.  Customer service nightmares and privacy abuses will continue across the land, until we force the cable monopolies to open their lines to competitors through leased access.  This has been proven in every place it’s been tried.  These cables run on public property—OUR property.  When private corporations use public property for private gain, we have a right to regulate them.  The only regulations which truly protect the consumer are those which create a level playing field.  You will only be treated with respect when you have freedom of choice.  You will only have fair prices and good customer service when competitors have equal access to the networks which are built on public land.  Nothing substantial will ever change until we address this issue first.

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Posted by Sinan on July 29, 2009 at 07:38 AM | #

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Posted by Kemal on September 03, 2009 at 12:53 PM | #

I agre with brown88? this is horrible!

Posted by A. Ivan Vaxtanov on September 05, 2009 at 12:49 AM | #

This is awfully.

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